Nice piece, Christine -- -- I know, or I think I know some narcissists -- -- I have learnt not to trust their friendship -- -- but I will associate with them, as they are fun -- -- I am also wondering about drunks __ -- they can seem narcisistic -- -- for instance, I had a girlfriend whose parents were drunks [they were fairly well-off, so no excuse there] -- -- but I'm wondering whether their self-centeredness was from the booze or narcissism ? Or just nutiness, I had stand-up fights with the father, who was alwayz out to prove himself __ __ for lack of avail !