Death as a crumpled heap on the floor -- -- seems to invite that consciouness never existed -- or is somehow inconsequential or obtainable, discardible -- If not ! Where does it go when we die ? And who are any of us dumb machines to even contemplate such a subject -- and I mean you Patrick, and I mean you Woody ! Are you both supercomputers to our Commodore 64ks ? Thankyou for enlightening us😎👍